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Title: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: CCD-Freak on October 29, 2012, 03:37:41 am
I am seeing blooming artifacts in some of my images.  The blooming streaks do not show up in all images. The attached image of M8 shows the problem and I have shot the same object before with the same exposure times and the streaks did not appear.  Has anyone else seen this problem.  I recently upgraded the firmware to the latest version and it made no difference.  I am wondering if I need to send the camera in for service.

John
CCD-Freak
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: jsbianco on October 30, 2012, 03:16:48 pm
John,

Is the vertical line in all the subs or just one?  Could be a satellite or space object in a single sub.

Joseph
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: jcm on October 30, 2012, 03:26:33 pm
Hi ( I am not the OP)

The lines come from 3 stars so the chance of satellites is unlikely.

What was the exposure?

John


Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: CCD-Freak on October 30, 2012, 10:17:51 pm
The artifacts are in all subs.  The subs are 10 minutes with an AT8RC.  I even see these in 1 second exposures when focusing too.  I have taken 10 minute subs of M20 on a differnt night and did not have the artifacts.  See attached M20 from Okie-Tex.
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: jcm on October 30, 2012, 10:34:09 pm
Hi All,

I have stretched the image even more and more stars have
the vertical lines.

Looks like a failure of the anti blooming system.
Suggest check with Atik - Is the camera still under warranty?

John
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: CCD-Freak on November 01, 2012, 02:04:39 am
I don't remember how long the warranty is and I have had the camera for several years.  I bought it directly from Warren Keller as he was setting up US dealers.  It was one of the very first to reach the US (sn 1004294). 
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: Chris on November 01, 2012, 05:47:47 pm
It looks to me as if the shutter hasn't closed.

Chris
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: CCD-Freak on November 01, 2012, 10:25:08 pm
The shutter seems to be working OK.  I can hear it operate between subs and I have watched it open and close when off the telescope. 
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: raygjones on November 02, 2012, 01:33:44 am
I have just recently experienced the same problem.   I had not used the camera for several months.  I now get blooming on all images, and am concerned that, the electronics are failing.

Ray Jones
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: andysea on November 02, 2012, 09:00:07 pm
That sure looks like blooming. It would be good to know how many cameras are experiencing this issue. I suggest posting the question on other astronomy websites too.

Andy
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: CCD-Freak on November 02, 2012, 11:39:36 pm
I think I will contact the guys at Atik to see what they think and to find out what it would cost to get it fixed since it is beyond the one year warranty. I need to find an e-mail address.


Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: andysea on November 03, 2012, 12:33:34 am
I would just send an email to the Atik tech support. There is really no other way to contact them...I'm spoiled by AP. Whenever I have a question I just pick up the phone and call them :)

Andy
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: vince on November 03, 2012, 09:02:58 am
Hi John,

This happens when the CCD is not fully covered by the shutter while it is being readout, can you have a look to see if its visibly sticking?

You can email me direct at vince at atik-cameras.com or on the support email, support at atik-cameras.com

Best Regards
Vince
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: andysea on November 03, 2012, 02:46:53 pm
That's interesting Vince.
Chris you were right on the money! I don't understand how the shutter not closing would create those artifacts. Is there a quick way to explain the cause?

Andy
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: CCD-Freak on November 03, 2012, 10:43:38 pm
Hi Vince

I will check it again even though I have never been able to catch it sticking open.
If the shutter is sticking is there anything I can do locally to cure the problem?
I am a retired radio / electronic technician so I am familiar with electronics.

John
CCD-Freak
Title: Re: 383L+OSC Blooming
Post by: Chris on November 06, 2012, 10:09:40 am
The CCD shifts the data directly from the cells where it's accumulated so it's still exposing while doing the readout.

The artifacts start at the bright stars and their intensity is proportional to the star brightness.

Chris