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silversilk

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Blown out stars with 414EX
« on: August 27, 2015, 08:49:55 PM »
Hello, I have recently purchased a new setup which includes the following:

Atik 414ex color
EdgeHD 8" w/ Adv VX mount
Hyperstar

I am brand new to imaging but had a different expectation of what images should be looking like.

I am finding that no matter what I do my stars are quite large and blown out as well as being overrun with stars that steal the show away from the nebula I am trying to capture.  I understand this is a highly sensitive setup (very fast) but even taking short exposures down to 5 Sec Subs did not solve the issue.  I use a Bahtinov Mask and Bahtinov Grabber software to make sure I am in focus and have also used the FWHM technique to confirm fine focus.  Comparing my examples to others I have seen within the Atik Gallery shows a completely different result. I am overrun with stars across the field of view and when I attempt to stretch the image to bring out the nebulosity of the object, there is almost no space that does not contain stars.  I can see in some cases where this would be desirable but I would like to know what I can do to tone this down so that I can get more nebula and less stars as well as smaller stars all together.   

Is there anyone else out there with a 414ex that can show some examples of what they are getting?

Is there something wrong with my camera?

Attached is an example of one of my images.  I know focus is not perfect on this image but no way should slightly bad focus cause me to get soooo many stars.   

Thanks in advance for everyone who provides feedback.

SoCalJohn

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Re: Blown out stars with 414EX
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2015, 01:28:59 AM »
Hi silversilk,

I may be able to help as I have a 414EX color also.  My scope is a Celestron Evolution 9.25 and I also use HyperStar.  Living in a very light polluted area in Southern California, I use an IDAS D1 filter.  The stars seem to be a little less blown out using it.  The filter may be your answer.  Just recently I have tried a H-Alpha filter as a luminance layer in Photoshop over the RGB.  The HA method of processing that I use is method #2 in this link.   http://starizona.com/acb/ccd/software/ps_hargb.aspx .  The photo with a lot of stars was taken using just the D1 filter (40x20sec exposures).  The photo with less and smaller stars was taken using the new Baader f/2 H-A Highspeed filter (40x20sec RGB and 40x20sec HA).  The HA method really makes the objects stand out.  Give at least a light pollution filter a try and go from there.

Regards,
John

 

SoCalJohn

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Re: Blown out stars with 414EX
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2015, 01:31:54 AM »
Here is the photo using the Badder f/2 Highspeed H-A filter as a luminance layer.  I also used the IDAS D1 filter on the RGB shots.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 01:54:49 AM by SoCalJohn »